The Four Horsemen – Rev 6:1-8

And I watched when the Lamb opened one of the seven seals, and I heard one of the four living creatures saying as a voice of thunder, “Come!” And I looked, and behold! A white horse, and the one sitting on it had a bow, and a crown was given to him, and he went forth overcoming that he might conquer.

And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come!” And another horse went forth – bright red – and the one sitting on it was granted to take the peace from the earth and that one another will slay one another, and to him was given a great sword.

And when he opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature saying, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a black horse! And the one sitting on it had a pair of scales in his hand. And I heard like a voice in the midst of the four living creatures saying, “A choenix of wheat for a denarius, and three chonixes of barley or a denarius. And the oil and the wine you should not damage.”

And when he opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come!” And I looked, and behold, a pale horse! And the one sitting on it, his name was Death, and Hades followed with him, and authority was given to them over the fourth of the earth, to kill with the sword and with famine and with death and by the beasts of the earth.

These are the four horsemen of the apocalypse. The perplexing question that is always asked is who they are. We see them represented in Zechariah 6, the four horses having only slightly different colors. However, when we come to this conclusion, we then have another perplexing question: why is the order different, and why do they go in various directions? The order isn’t truly something to get caught up on. What brings my confusion is that they are all heading different directions, and that they are considered the four rauchs of heaven. The Hebrew would say that the black goes north, and the white also goes north, yet the dappled horse goes south and the red horse isn’t even mentioned.

How exactly they fit together, I do not know. It is entirely possible that they don’t, and that the majority of commentators have, like myself, seen the similarity and falsely assumed. How exactly we take such a passage as Zechariah 6 has very little influence upon how we translate Revelations 6.

This first horse is white, and the rider upon it has a bow. He is given a crown and rides off to conquer, bent on conquest. Some have asserted that this is the Antichrist, and others have asserted that it is Jesus. These are two completely different things, so one is wrong, or both are wrong. It is obvious that Jesus rides the white horse, but Jesus has a sword and not a bow. My contention would lie in that where we are in our timeline would suggest that this is the Antichrist. How do we have Jesus riding forth at the beginning of the Tribulation? Even with the idea of a pre-tribulation rapture, this doesn’t fit, because Jesus would be riding forth to conquer, not to rapture.

It has been suggested that this is the eternal Gospel going forth, and so in that way Jesus is the white rider. Once again, while this is symbolism, I don’t think we can rob it of the immediate implications. There is a literal rider upon this horse, and if all of the other horses have literal riders, then why would we symbolize this away as mere Gospel? No, the best way to interpret this, in my own opinion, would be to say it is indeed the Antichrist. However, we’re at the beginning of the Tribulation. I would see this corresponding to the events marked out in Daniel 8:23 and 11:21. This would be when that pact is being made – when the covenant is confirmed (Dan 9:27).

Notice with all of these that one of the four living creatures says, “Come!” Each different horse receives a different living creature. I don’t think there is any way of connecting these living creatures to the horses, but if you could connect them, I would love to see your conclusions.

The second horse is fiery red. Notice the other two places in Revelation where red is used: the judgment in chapter 9:17 and the red dragon in chapter 12. Red in the book of Revelations is negative. It connotes judgment according to many Bible dictionaries. Unlike the first rider, where he already had a bow, this rider is given his weapon. Once again, when we looked at the general overview of Revelation 6, we would see that this lines up with Jesus’ words in Matthew 24:7. First, there is war, then there is international strife. In Daniel 11, we find that this “king of the north” attacks the king of the south. This is probably where we are in our timeline.

The third horse is black, and its rider holds a pair of scales. Now, in case you are like myself, when you read this, it isn’t talking about the scales of a fish or reptile – like a dragon or something. These are scales used to compare weight – a balance. In the ancient times, you would have a certain price for wheat, and you weigh out in one side of the scale your gold, and on the other side they weigh out the certain amount of wheat to balance the scale. This is why the living creature says, “A day’s consumption of wheat for a day’s wages, and a day’s consumption of barley for a day’s wages” (which is the understanding behind the chonix and denarius).

I had said that much of what we see in the Seals corresponds with the book of Ezekiel. The second horseman represents no peace, and we certainly find that as a judgment in Ezekiel 4, where the prophet is prophesying Jerusalem’s siege. At the end of Ezekiel 4, in verses 16-17, we also find this implication of famine and rations given for food and water. This inference would call into question our timeline, for during this time in Daniel and in Jesus’ prophecy we find that Jerusalem will be at “peace” – a false peace, albeit. While I think that there is the correlation, and I do assume that John is also using the progression found in Ezekiel 1-10, I don’t think that we should put it so literally upon Jerusalem and Jerusalem alone. What John is seeing by the Spirit is something altogether different than the prophet Ezekiel, yet at the same time is quite similar – to the point where John even borrows language from Ezekiel to describe it.

Why is it said not to touch the oil and the wine? I believe that we are seeing symbolic language, which very well could be worked out through literal fulfillment. It might be that God will actually have plenty of oil and wine, while everything else is dearth. Wine symbolizes the New Covenant (Matthew 26:27-28, Luke 5:39). Oil can be debated, but most likely it is a symbol of the “anointing”. In both cases God is making physical manifestations of spiritual truth. While everything else is bankrupt, the hope is still found in the blood of the New Covenant and the Spirit of God. It is when we are in complete keeping with the command of God, the covenant made between God and Israel, the land itself is affected and produces abundantly (see Leviticus 26:3-5, 10, Deuteronomy 28:8, 12, Psalm 37:19). It is that very thing that will bring the Jew to jealousy. When they see the covenant enacted through Gentiles and formerly-known-as-Jews (for anyone who knows a Jewish believer has probably heard the stories of being cast out of the Jewish society because of that belief) they will have nothing but jealousy. Who wouldn’t be jealous? The very people you thought were insignificant and outside of God’s will are the ones being blessed by God.

This fourth horseman is Death, and Hades follows close behind. Notice Revelation 1:18 and 20:13-14. Death and Hades are personified in those two places as well. The Greek word θανατος is like the Hebrew word daber: it can mean either death or pestilence. The Greek word Hades seems to come from the word ειδον, which is to see, and the alpha to negate it. It would literally then mean “unseen” or “not seeing”. So, we see in the secondary meaning of thanatos that this could indeed parallel Jesus’ words in Luke 21, that there will be pestilence.

In Ezekiel 5:16-17, the same plagues are promised. Also see Ezekiel 14:21 and Jeremiah 9:21. In Ezekiel 5:16-17, we find that added to these plagues are daber and dam (death/pestilence and blood) to pass through the land. We can be sure that John is not thinking of only Ezekiel 5 or 14, but the whole context of Ezekiel 1-10 (and possibly 1-14). This same symbology and judgment is repeated throughout this whole section of Ezekiel, and Jon has been making references to this section up to this point. In Revelaiton 4 we saw similar language describing the throne room in heaven as Ezekiel 1, in 5 we saw the same scroll as in Ezekiel 2, and in 6:6 we saw the same sort of language of famine and rations as in Ezekiel 4:16-17. We’ll see as we continue that this pattern doesn’t stop all the way through the seventh seal in Revelation 8.

In 2 Samuel 22:6, thanatos is used in the Greek Septuagint as the translation for sheol. In this, is it possible that John is paralleling the two words – death and Hades – neither of which truly being what they are describing. Death is the separation of the soul from the body (Strong’s NT Greek 2288-1), the result of which being Hades. What is it that these two words may be typifying for the reader? If John is playing on these two words to express something larger than these two words, what could that be?

Proverbs 2:18 speaks of the adulteress’ house leading down to death, and her paths to ghosts (or the shades). Her feet go down to death, and her steps lead to sheol (Pro 5:5). Her house is a highway to sheol, leading down to the chambers of death (Pro 7:27). The woman folly invites the simple into her home, but little do they know that the dead are there and that her guests are in the depths of sheol (Pro 9:18). In Hosea 13:14, we read of how God will “ransom them from the power of sheol; I will redeem them from death. Where, O death, are your plagues? Where, O sheol, is your destruction?”

Is it possible that John sees the adulterous woman (Revelation 17:1 – Babylon) as being this fourth horseman? In this case, we see both judgment upon Israel and the common thread of the Antichrist once again. Ezekiel 16:15 and 1 Peter 5:13 (as well as much else in the context of Ezekiel 16 and also 23) plainly put Babylon as being Jerusalem. In the book of Revelations, we see two Israels. There is the woman who is the righteous and sealed Israel (the 144,000) in Revelation 12 as the woman who is to give birth. Then, we see the prostitute is this wicked Israel, the one that has ever and always been chastised and condemned by the prophets. Both are Israel, but only one is the pure and first fruits to God. Just like we see some in Israel that betray the covenant in Daniel 11:30 and 32, and we even find in Zechariah 14:14 that some of Judah will fight against Jerusalem at Armageddon, so too do we find that there is both righteous and wicked Israel in the book of Revelations.

What John is doing here is connecting the dots for us. This pestilence is ultimately from the Lord (Ezekiel 5:11-12), but we find John explaining to us who this “fourth” is and in what manner it happens. This theme continues through Revelations. Notice also the context of Ezekiel 5 – Jerusalem under siege – and compare Luke 21:20. What I am suggesting is that this fourth horseman is released at the time that there is the rebellion spoken of in Daniel 8:12, which is the time where the abomination of desolation is set up. This final horseman is when the Antichrist is fully established, and they who know their God will resist him. This is the rebellion that Paul expected in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 (see the Greek, because rebellion is the correct interpretation, not “great falling away”).

This is where the pieces all fit together. This is the climax of the plot. From this point forward, we find that there is persecution upon the saints – all of them. We also find that they who are wicked continue to do wickedly. It is here, and exactly here, where we see the unfolding of all that the prophets have decreed. The triumph of the saints over the kingdom of darkness is utterly displayed in their victory through the cross, and this is the formation of events to reveal Christ at His second coming. So, what is imperative to understand, then, is that these four horsemen revolve around the Antichrist and his actions, but they ultimately have their full expression through the sons of Israel. As we continue in Revelation 6, we’ll see the events to culminate in the return of Jesus. As the pieces are put together for us, and as we begin to see more details being added as we go through the book of Revelations, it is imperative to understand these seals. These are the foundation for the rest of the book in regard to the end times. How we understand the trumpets and bowls will directly come from how we understand the seals. At the very front of all of this is the four horsemen and what they represent. These are world events, but they revolve around Jerusalem – the center of all the nations (Ezekiel 5:5).


3 thoughts on “The Four Horsemen – Rev 6:1-8

  1. Hi

    I have been watching your presentation “argument fro pre tribulation rapture” on UTube, which I am in agreement with you I must say and am keen to share what I found while studying a few years ago which has changed my views COMPLETELY regarding the Four horsemen. I am hoping a few lightbulbs might go on for you to as I see from your writing that you are a real thinker and are not swayed by what others teach but prove through scripture for yourself.

    I AM NO SCHOLAR but I had shared much the same perspective as you on the four horsemen for over 34 odd years ….. but here is how my views all changed backed up with screeds of scripture.

    A few years ago I began a study on BARLEY throughout scripture which lead me QUITE UNEXPECTEDLY to the Black Horse of Revelation 6. Near the beginning of my study on Barley I came across a very profound fact. Jewish rabbi’s state that whenever BARLEY is MENTIONED in the text in the Old Testament that it always saw the Israelites either DELIVERED FROM HUNGER OR DEATH or given an ABUNDANCE OF FOOD.

    After conscientious study, I found that over and over again they were absolutely correct. I found that it didn’t matter if it was a sheaf of Barley, 2 Measures, 3 Measures or a whole field of Barley the same theme carried on throughout, ‘deliverance or abundance. I wondered if I could find this “law” in the New Testament and the 1st one I came across was the story of the small boy with his lunch of two fish and 5 BARLEY loaves where Jesus multiplies the bread and 5,000 people are fed and delivered from hunger, the theme of abundance and deliverance carried on through so I continued studying to see if there were any more references of Barley in the NT and I found just one more in the Black Horse of Revelation 6. I IMMEDIATELY saw that something was amiss as I had always been taught that this horse represented FAMINE and economic hardship and that the world was going to go through a terrible famine in the last days………….?? BUT I THOUGHT, HOW CAN IT BE FAMINE IF ALL THESE REFERENCES TALK ABOUT DELIVERANCE From DEATH and an ABUNDANCE of FOOD?

    This fact I had discovered regarding the mention of Barley in the text got me really curious and so I went about with the same system of examining the other elements in regards to the Black Horse of Revelation 6 and I found out that “A Measure” when looked at from the ‘Law of First Mention’ and carrying on throughout scripture ALSO consistently represents deliverance from death and abundance of food; that “3 Measures” consistently represents the deliverance of the 1st born son and the many sons to follow! And so I carried on examining all the other elements of the Black Horse seeing that the first three symbols mentioned above were very similar WHICH COULDN’T BE IGNORED and what I have found astounds me, I believe now without a doubt that the Black Horse is “The Horse of the Atonement the Horse of the Harvest” and fits in with the “Feast of Tishri. Also when you put the Black and White Horses of Zechariah alongside the Black and White Horses of Revelation they present the very same picture it is amazing! I was awestruck when I saw what God had shown me.

    I see two laws for interpreting scripture evident in regards to the ‘Barley and the one and three measures’ they are; the “Law of First Mention” and The “Law of Repetition”.

    I don’t read commentaries as a rule, but after I found these facts out regarding the Black Horse, I decided to see what the commentaries said (all 90 odd of them I could find on line) and I noted that NOT ONE OF THEM had used this system of looking from the “Law of First mention” and following the consistent meaning throughout the Word of God to interpret what the symbols represented, particularly with the Black Horse, they rather just grabbed a verse here or there and then commentated from those few verses.

    Here are some of the references below – from an excerpt from my book (because after I found this out I thought others just have to be blessed like I have, so hence the book) . I will let Scripture speak for itself.

    Exodus Chapter 9:12 – The Exodus of the Israelites in the Barley Harvest:
    God delivered the Israelites from the Egyptians and kept their grain safe, giving them food for their exodus out of Egypt.

    Judges Chapter 7:13 – The Story of Gideon and the Dream of the Barley Cake:
    God delivered Gideon from the Midianites and the Israelites were kept safe.

    Ruth Chapter 1 – Ruth and Naomi and the Barley Harvest:
    Ruth and Naomi were redeemed through God’s Power – and given an abundance of food.

    2 Kings 7 – The Lepers and all Israel Receive Flour and Barley Worth a shekel:
    God prophesied through Elisha that the flour and barley would be worth a shekel and this came about and He delivered the lepers and all Israel from hunger.

    2 Kings 4:42 – The Men’s Poisoned Stew is replaced with Barley Loaves:
    Elisha asked for the first fruits of barley bread and was given 20 loaves. The bread is multiplied like Jesus’ miracles in the New Testament – everyone is fed and there is more left over.

    Jeremiah 41:8 – Ishmael and his men went to slaughter 80 men from Shechem, Shiloh and Samaria. The 80 men offered their treasures in the field which included Barley: The men, who were being attacked, asked not to be killed and they offer the treasures in the field of wheat, barley, oil, and honey; this appeases their enemies and they are spared death.

    In 2 Chronicles – Solomon Provides Food including Barley for his Servants who build the Temple: The Lord commands that the servants be provided with an abundant amount of wheat, barley, oil and wine, as they build the temple.

    And lastly in the New Testament – the Fish and Barley Loaves provided by the little boy’s lunch: The little boy provided two fish and five barley loaves. God’s power was shown in this miracle; 5,000 followers of Christ were delivered from hunger and were supplied with an abundance of food, (followers who eat the bread from heaven, Jesus, have abundant life through the Son! John 10:10).

    Here is a verse to consider
    Job 31:6 “Let me be weighed in an even balance, that God may know mine integrity.”

    When you examine the Balances in Revelation 6 are they ODD even or EVEN? You will notice that the Denarius actually makes them Even – AN EVEN BALANCE IS always GOOD in Scripture. Even in the OT In 2 Kings 7, God says through the prophet Elijah “from Heaven” 1 measure of Flour for a SHEKEL and 2 Measures of Barley for SHEKEL (a similar picture to Revelation) and deliverance from hunger and abundance of food is the result for Israel and the outcasts. As mentioned above, it doesn’t matter if it is a sheaf of barley or a field of Barley the result is always the same Deliverance and Abundance. The day’s wages or the Denarius represents the payment as it did in the other Scriptures in the NT where Jesus pays each worker a Denarius for the Day. Both times that the Denarius is mentioned in the New Testament Jesus either pays a debt, or the wages.

    Oil and Wine Most often represents the Holy Spirit and the Blood of Christ. (Which I also go into great detail in my book to explain this)

    Here are the scriptures that I can find that speak on A Measure & Three Measures (this from my book also) – in regards to the Measure of Wheat just to show you how consistent this all is.

    The First Mention of ‘A Measure’ appears In Exodus 16:4 & 16
    Exodus 16:4 & 16 Then the Lord said to Moses, “I will rain down ‘bread’ from heaven for you”. This is the thing which the Lord hath commanded, “Gather of it every man according to his eating, an ‘omer (‘measure’) for every man, according to the number of your persons”. John 6:31-32 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’ Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven”.

    The second Mention of ‘a Measure’
    In 1 Kings 17:17-24 Elijah visits the widow’s house and she prepares him some food with just ‘a measure’ of flour and some oil. Elijah prophecies and says “For this is what the LORD, the God of Israel”, says, ‘The jar of flour will not be used up and the jug of oil will not run dry until the day the LORD sends rain on the land’”. The widow’s measure of flour and oil (which make bread) and she sees her son resurrected. The flour and oil are multiplied, giving them both life! – A picture of the resurrection and Jesus the Bread of Life.

    The third Mention of ‘a Measure’
    In 2 Kings 7:1 Elisha says, “Listen to the word of the LORD; thus says the LORD, tomorrow about this time a ‘measure’ of fine flour will be sold for a shekel, and two measures of barley for a shekel”: The royal officer doesn’t believe Elisha. He says “if God could open the ‘windows in heaven’, could such a thing be?” He is killed because of his unbelief! The lepers and all Israel are delivered from death and hunger and given an abundance of food from the ‘windows of heaven’. Barley features here as well – in keeping with the theme of deliverance, abundance and life.

    The first mention of ‘three measures’ appears in Genesis 18:6 –
    So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah, and said, “Quickly, prepare ‘three measures’ of fine flour, knead it and make bread cakes”: Abraham and Sarah have three men who visit them and receive the news from the Lord through one of the men that Sarah would bear a son (Isaac). Sarah was delivered from barrenness. Isaac was to be the first of Abraham’s ‘sons of faith’, the ‘first of the many sons’ he was promised.

    The second Mention of ‘Three Measures’
    In 1 Samuel 1:24 God heard Hannah’s prayers and at last she gave birth to a son, Samuel, who Hannah in turn gave to the Lord; Hannah’s offering to the Lord for her son was one ephah, ‘three measures’ of meal so her ‘son could serve in the temple’. Eli prays that Hannah would have more sons and she gives birth to three more sons and two daughters. Hannah is delivered from barrenness as Sarah was, and given ‘a son who serves in the temple’ and more sons to follow.

    The third Mention of ‘Three Measures’
    In Judges 6:18-19 Gideon was keen to please the Lord so he could find the Lord’s favour to win the battle against the Midianites. His offering was an ephah, ‘three measures’ of meal. Gideon and his men were delivered from death. Also of note, yet again, the word ‘barley’ is present in this story in the dream of the barley cake, in which the Lord prophesies and shows that the Midianites ‘tent or house’ would be destroyed.

    The Forth Mention of ‘Three Measures’
    In Ezekiel 45: 24 and in Ezekiel 46:5-7 The Prince provides the burnt offerings along with ‘three measures’ (or three quarts from five bushels of wheat and three quarts from five bushels of barley) The whole chapter of Ezekiel 45 sees all Israel fully atoned for and restored! The Princes take back possession of the people through the wheat, barley, oil and sacrifice –“There is that mention of barley again!”

    Explaining Israel the Nation.
    In Exodus, (in the verse referenced just below) the ‘whole’ nation of Israel is referred to as ‘God’s son’, his ‘firstborn’. The nation of Israel (many) yet ‘as ONE’ are delivered from Pharaoh. The three measures (which I have demonstrated above) pictures the delivery of the first born son through Sarah and Hannah, but it also pictures Israel, the many sons ‘as one’ who are delivered and atoned for through the ‘Prince’ (a picture of Jesus). We are delivered through Jesus as ‘ONE’, we are the body of Christ who are made up of ‘many’, through the ‘first born Son’. Can you see the parallel picture?
    Exodus 4: 23 The LORD said to Moses, “When you go back to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders which I have put in your power; but I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go. “Then you shall say to Pharaoh, ‘Thus says the LORD, “ISRAEL is My SON, My FIRSTBORN.” So I said to you, ‘Let My son go that he may serve Me’; but you have refused to let him go. Behold, I will kill your son, your firstborn.

    To Sum up the Measure and Three Measures.

    A Measure – Deliverance and Abundance of Bread (Jesus said I am the Bread!)
    Manna Bread: deliverance from hunger and death/Bread from Heaven
    Lepers and Israel: deliverance from hunger and death/Food from Windows of Heaven
    The widow’s son resurrected: deliverance from hunger and death/Bread from Heaven
    1 Measure – Life for the Son/“Israel” through the Son/Bread of Heaven

    Three Measures –The First of Many Sons – Deliverance (Jesus said ‘I am the Life’!)
    Abraham – promise of a Son: deliverance from barrenness/the first of many sons
    Hannah – prayer for a Son: deliverance from barrenness/the first of more sons
    Gideon: – ‘whole’ nation of Israel delivered from death
    Princes offering: ‘whole’ nation of Israel atoned for and delivered
    3 Measures – First Son given Life! – The promise of Life for Many Sons

    (Also Israel the first son – Nation given life- through Israel came redemption through Jesus.) I hope you are beginning to see a pattern emerge.
    (The only Famine I can see is the FAMINE OF UNDERSTANDING who THE TRUE BREAD OF LIFE IS, it is the FAMINE OF THE WORD.)

    The number 3 and its relation to the Black Horse which is SEAL NUMBER 3
    1. The first occurrence of the number 3 is in Genesis 1:13. It was THE THIRD day the earth rose up out of the water, symbolic of the resurrection.
    2. It was on the third day that Jesus rose again from the dead. So the number 3 MEANS RESURRECTION and COMPLETENESS of God’s Work.
    3. It was the Third Day that Queen Esther’s People were delivered
    4. It was the third day that God provided the Sacrifice for Abraham
    5. it was the Third day that the Cupbearer (Wine Bearer) received life and the Baker (Bread Bearer) was put to death – a Picture of Jesus Death and Resurrection through the Bread and Wine
    6. It was the third day that Josephs Brothers were promised life.

    The numeric’s all add up when you look at the seals from my research – just amazing.

    After I found this out about the Black Horse which IS the REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST I decided to take a closer look at the White Horse. (some details gleaned from my book below)

    Many teachers insist that WHITE HORSE ISN’T REEEEALLY WHITE and pure… even though there are 18 other references to White in Revelation that ALL “mean” white and the purity of God, Christ and the Saints. There are 29 references altogether in the NT and ALL MEAN white. The rider is GIVEN a Victory Crown – people are usually only given a victory crown if a Victory has been won and we see that Jesus had just won the victory a couple of verse earlier, directly before the White Horse is handed the victory crown and is sent out – this theme of VICTORY carries on right from Chapters 1 through to 6, as the Churches are told to OVERCOME and win the “””Nikao””””Victory. The Rider carries a bow. I found that the Lexicon on Blue Letter Bible states that the root word for the Bow (which I might add that this word for Bow ONLY APPEARS “ONCE” IN all of SCRIPTURE) that the rider carries means to ‘bring forth’ and the Blue Lexicon translates the bringing forth as “as of a women giving birth and as of the earth bringing forth fruit”. After more study I found that the root word “TO BRING FORTH” which is the word tikto, is a verb and appears 15 times in the New Testament in relation to the birth of Jesus Christ (Jesus’ birth records the highest occurrence of the word). Tikto is also mentioned once in relation to the birth of Isaac and John the Baptist; once in reference to the woman who suffers before she ‘brings forth’ her child; and is also associated with the bringing forth of good fruit /Blessings from God. Therefore, the word tikto is overwhelmingly associated with new birth, particularly the birth of Christ and of two Godly men, as well as the bearing of good fruit/blessings from God. I am in agreement with the Blue Lexicon’s interpretation for the word bow. And as for the Arrowless Bow, if you take into account that WE are the arrows that go out in Righteousness,(white Horse) and Victory, (victory crown) and New Birth and with Good Fruit (the bow). All of the above are the Characteristics of the Holy Spirit. The Bow which others interpret as a Covenant (such as the Rainbow that was given in the OT) fits in with the Covenant/Promise of the Holy Spirit which is BROUGHT FORTH (The Bow) meaning “TO BRING FORTH” RIGHTEOUSNESS AND VICTORY. Still others interpret it as the simplest fabric which when researched is “White Linen” which is what the saints are clothed in in Revelation 19, this also fits. (I also cover more in my book and show how all THREE MENTIONS of WHITE HORSES in Revelation speak of the very same thing.

    I believe to ADD 2,000 years here and change the subject to an ANTICHRIST takes away from the consistent message that has been presented directly before in the previous chapters to chapter 6.

    Many people say that Jesus doesn’t wear a Stephanos/Garland or Victory Crown but many diadems/crowns so this rider on the White Horse can’t be Christ. Jesus however is pictured in Revelation 14 wearing a Golden Garland/Victory Crown and harvesting the earth. He also wears a Garland of Thorns which represents the victory over sin, He took all our sin upon Him.

    People often say that the four horsemen are the judgement of God but I pose this question. If the four horsemen are the judgement of God why in the 5th seal are the saints crying out WHEN are you going to JUDGE and avenge our blood?

    I believe judgement happens at the 6th Seal.

    In Chapter 4 of Revelation Jesus says to John come up here and I will show you WHAT MUST HAPPEN AFTER THIS.

    What I believe is import is to find the REFERENCE POINT or find our place on the MAP of HEAVEN so to speak, to identify the exact time and place that John arrives in Heaven and what the AFTER THIS means.

    Important Questions that I believe need to be answered.
    * At What Time in John’s life did he have the vision?
    * What is the Exact Time John arrives in Heaven?
    * What is the “What is Now” for John?
    * Where are Holy Spirit and the Horses and their riders SENT?

    Looking at things now in chronological order.
    John at the time of his vision was around 92 years old.

    From Revelation Chapters 1-4 we are given the message to all the churches, and the reoccurring message to the churches is “to Him who OVERCOMES (Nikao) – I will give……”

    In Rev Chapter 4 John is taken into Heaven to the very throne room of God and he sees Him who SITS on the throne:

    Revelation 4-3 And the one who SAT there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. And 24 elders SING “You are worthy, our Lord and God, to receive GLORY AND HONOUR AND POWER, for you created all things, and by your will they were created and have their being.” – (The Creator God)


    John sees in the right hand of “Him who SAT on the throne” – a scroll;
    4Then I saw in the right hand of him who SAT on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a mighty angel proclaiming in a loud voice, “Who is Worthy to break the seals and open the scroll?” 3 but NO ONE “”“IN HEAVEN””” or ON EARTH or UNDER THE EARTH COULD OPEN THE SCROLL OR EVEN LOOK INSIDE. John said 4 I Wept and Wept because NO ONE was found who was worthy to open the scroll or look inside. 5 Then one of the elders said to John, “Do not weep! SEE, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has Triumphed (“Nikao” ACHIEVED the VICTORY). He is able to open the scroll and its seven seals.”

    This is the “AFTER THIS” John IS TAKEN “”””BACK””””to see the VERY MOMENT that Jesus THE LAMB Enters Heaven because before that he couldn’t see ANYONE “IN HEAVEN” or ON the Earth or UNDER the Earth to open the scroll. The text says that “NO ONE” could open the Scroll or look inside and John is really upset about and he weeps and weeps, but then one of the elders draws John’s attention to Jesus who at this VERY MOMENT is pictured as the LAMB WHO HAS JUST BEEN SLAIN but is now “STANDING” at the centre of the throne.

    6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, “STANDING” at the centre of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. The Lamb had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits[a] of God sent out INTO ALL THE EARTH. 7 He WENT and TOOK the scroll from the right hand of Him who SAT on the Throne (THIS IS AN ACTION HAPPENING RIGHT AT THAT MOMENT) 8 And when he had taken it, the four living creatures and the twenty-four elders fell down before the LAMB. Each one had a harp and they were holding golden bowls full of incense, which are the prayers of God’s people. 9 And THEY SANG a “”NEW SONG””

    So instead of singing the song that they had been singing earlier in the chapter to the one who SAT on the Throne, they NOW sing a “NEW SONG” to the one WHO WAS SLAIN BUT IS NOW “STANDING ALIVE” IN THE CENTRE OF THE THRONE

    “You ARE worthy to take the scroll
    and to open its seals,
    and with your blood you purchased for God
    persons from every tribe and language and people and nation.
    10 You have made them to be a kingdom and priests (we are a kingdom of Priests – second reference 2 Peter 2:9) to serve our God, and they will reign ON THE EARTH.”

    Then the Elders SING
    “Worthy is the LAMB, who WAS SLAIN
    and HONOUR and GLORY and PRAISE!”


    The Message of the victory of Jesus Christ and his resurrection in Revelation Chapters 4 and 5 “for John” is the “WHAT IS NOW”, as he had witnessed the crucifixion of Christ on earth and was a witness of His resurrection when He rose again and appeared to all the disciples ON EARTH; but John is now, in his vision, being shown and witnessing from a HEAVENLY PERSPECTIVE what took place in the throne room of Heaven at the VERY MOMENT that Jesus ‘Entered Heaven as the RISEN SLAIN LAMB’. John is seeing everything anew from heaven and looking at the Hopelessness of the situation that NO ONE was found worthy ANYWHERE, IN HEAVEN, ON EARTH OR UNDER EARTH that could open the scroll in order for mankind to be redeemed – that is why I believe that John was so upset and there were so many tears.

    If Jesus had taken John to a later point in time in Heaven, then John would NOT HAVE BEEN WORRIED OR UPSET that there was no one to open the scroll because Jesus would have been before him on the throne ALREADY HAVING CONQUERED and WON THE VICTORY when John first arrived, but as I have pointed out the One who SAT on the throne WAS THERE BEING SUNG TO but Jesus doesn’t appear UNTIL LATER ON as the RISEN SLAIN LAMB to open the Scroll. THEN a “NEW SONG IS SUNG” otherwise they would have already be singing the New Song all along, there would be no need for a New Song!

    I BELIEVE that what must be noted here also is that when Jesus appeared in Heaven as the RISEN SLAIN LAMB, (this WOULD have been DIRECTLY AFTER JESUS RESURRECTION) in which case the disciples at this point would have “STILL BEEN ON THE EARTH”. THIS IS THE VERY CRITICAL POINT THAT NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED in order to see clearly the sequence of events and the meaning of the “AFTER THIS”; which now if we start from when the first seal is opened it makes sense that the PROMISED Holy Spirit would be described as being sent first and then the sequence of events after that!.

    I am in agreement with you a lot of emphasis is often put on the word US in regards to the 24 Elders and the SAINTS so called being in heaven at this point. I don’t deny that the 24 Elders represent us but I do believe when they say those words “you have redeemed us” it is right at the VERY MOMENT when Jesus APPEARED IN HEAVEN DIRECTLY AFTER HIS ASCENSION and when Jesus brought redemption for US here on earth, WHICH IS WHERE THE THE FOUR HORSES AND THEIR RIDERS ARE SENT!

    I see the “prayers of the saints” in Golden Bowls IN HEAVEN in chapter 5 verse 6 but There is no mention of saints in white robes until the “fifth seal”, which they are promised the white robes at this point; but the multitude “appear” in their white robes in Chapter 7.

    In Zechariah the Horses are described as going TO and FRO throughout ALL THE EARTH. In Revelation, Four Cherubim call the Horsemen out TO BE SENT INTO ALL THE EARTH (the Lion, the Ox, the Man and the Eagle) and if we align each Horse now with each Cherubim face this is what the Duty of each horse describes as they go to and fro throughout the earth.

    1st Seal –The Face of a LION- (“Do not weep! See, the LION of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has triumphed BEEN VICTORIOUS.)
    White Horse – The Horseman who is given a VICTORY CROWN TO “BE VICTORIOUS” because of the Victory that Jesus had Just Won a few verses earlier, that is WHY the Rider was “GIVEN” the VICTORY CROWN – (white horse) white speaks of RIGHTEOUSNESS (the bow) “BRINGING FORTH” (the crown) of VICTORY through the saints (we ARE the arrows) ON THE EARTH. Before that the saints could never attain that victory until Jesus had WON IT and sent THE ONE WHOM HE PROMISED HE WOULD SEND – The Holy Spirit.

    2nd Seal – The face of an OX–– the calf or the animal of sacrifice
    Fiery Red Horse that is given a SWORD to take PEACE from the earth –
    The Saints/Witnesses of the Gospel are sacrificed for the cause of the gospel. In Matt chap 10:34 Jesus said to the disciples he did not come to bring PEACE but a SWORD, and they were told to be willing to even die for the sake of the gospel. Jesus said in Luke 12:49 “I have come to bring FIRE and how I wish it were already kindled”, hence the FIERY Red Horse that takes PEACE from the earth with a SWORD. Jesus also said in Luke 12:51 that he came to bring DIVISION, the sword divides. (the etymology for the word sword is (fight or combat, of persons at variance, disputants, quarrels, strife, contention etc.) This sword is also used in Rev 13:10 and 13:14. The Anti-christ rises up against the gospel of God but through sacrifice the saints are dispersed and the gospel is spread THROUGHOUT THE EARTH, this happened in 70 AD and is still going on today as the horses run to and fro!

    3rd Seal – The face of A Man
    Black Horse – MAN/Jesus Son of God who took on sin (went through the 3 hours of darkness – hence the black horse) and Rose Again to deliver MANkind and bring Justice – (even scales) and bring in the FRUITS of the harvest (PEOPLES OF THE EARTH with the fruits of their labour THROUGH JESUS the Son of Man), Jesus always delivers before the beginning of Judgement just as he did in Exodus with the Plagues. He redeems FROM ALL THE EARTH. This has happened through the centuries as well and will also happen until he comes again.

    4th Seal – The face of An Eagle scans all the EARTH from a height – and devours animals etc.
    Pale Horse – Bringer of Sword, FAMINE (not the Black Horse but the Pale Horse), Pestilence and death by wild beasts to all the EARTH. The Plagues are the warnings before IMPENDING JUDGEMENT TO THE EARTH. (This is also a method of calling the people of God to wake up and come out of Mystery Babylon before He JUDGES in the 6th Seal). Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “‘Come out of her, MY PEOPLE,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of HER PLAGUES; God often uses this method to bring people back to him as shown in Exodus when he sent the plagues.


    Here is a copy of my book if you are interested, I go into a lot more detail in it. Debbie


    1. Thanks for stopping by! I hope that you won’t be upset to hear that at this point I can’t agree or disagree with what you’re saying. I’ll need to spend a bit of time looking into it.
      Something that I did have a question, though, was what you’re suggesting Revelation 6 is speaking. Are you suggesting that Revelation 6 has nothing to do with a “tribulation” that virtually all commentators since the second century have suggested? If not, then I guess the question still is what it is that you’re suggesting. I’ve heard some say that the white horse is Jesus with the Gospel of the kingdom (citing Matt 24:14), but I’m not sure that I’ve ever heard someone suggest that the other horses are Jesus in any way, shape, or form.
      Also, is the black horse, in your opinion, a good thing? From what I understand, a denarius was the day’s wages, and a “measure” was a day’s worth of food. Hence, like you mentioned, in Exodus they gathered “a measure” of the manna per day. It still seems to me that you have a day’s wages being spent specifically on food, and then you have everything else that you also must buy (clothing, housing, taxes, etc).
      Thanks again for reaching out. I hope to hear from you again. Grace and peace in Christ


      1. Just want to say, no I am not upset at all :o) I really appreciate your gentle response and willingness to have dialogue with me.
        YOU SAID: Are you suggesting that Revelation 6 has nothing to do with a “tribulation” that virtually all commentators since the second century have suggested?
        DEBBIE’S Answer: I do believe that tribulation does come into it (beginning at the 4th seal and in full swing at the 6th seal) but Jesus plan of Redemption is in there too. What I believe throws everyone off is that 2,000 years are inserted into the text by most scholars between the time that Jesus Stands in Victory on the Throne and to where he begins to open the seals, it just isn’t in there!
        YOU SAID: If not, then I guess the question still is what it is that you’re suggesting. I’ve heard some say that the white horse is Jesus with the Gospel of the kingdom (citing Matt 24:14):
        DEBBIE’S Answer”. I agree that the White Horse has everything to do with the Gospel going out in the Power of the Holy Spirit and the Message of Victory in Jesus Christ through the gospel. As I have pointed out, time and time again White is associated with Righteousness, God is not a God of confusion.
        YOU SAID: but I’m not sure that I’ve ever heard someone suggest that the other horses are Jesus in any way, shape, or form.
        DEBBIE’S Answer. The Red Horse I believe is self-explanatory – while it is not Jesus riding the horse so to speak, it is part of Jesus PLAN to spread the gospel. JESUS SAID to the disciples “HE” DID NOT COME TO BRING PEACE but a SWORD, and they were told to be willing to even die for the sake of the gospel. Jesus said in Luke 12:49 “ ‘I’ have come to bring FIRE and how I wish it were already kindled”, hence the FIERY Red Horse that takes PEACE from the earth with a SWORD. Jesus also said in Luke 12:51 that he came to bring DIVISION, the sword divides. The ANTICHRIST is GIVEN POWER (allowed) TO RISE UP AGAINST BELIEVERS – nothing happens without the authority FROM HEAVEN but through sacrifice the saints are dispersed and the gospel is spread THROUGHOUT THE EARTH, this happened in 70 AD and is still going on today as the horses run to and fro!
        YOU SAID: Also, is the black horse, in your opinion, a good thing?
        DEBBIE’S Answer: Yes I believe it definitely is.
        YOU SAID: From what I understand, a denarius was the day’s wages, and a “measure” was a day’s worth of food.
        DEBBIE’S Answer: Yes each of those verses about the “Measure” shows the provision of food for each day “the bread”. THE PARABLE OF THE DENARIUS IS ALL ABOUT THE “KINGDOM OF GOD”. Jesus is the landowner in this parable. All who are hired are those who “serve in the kingdom”, and Jesus gives those who serve in the Kingdom enough for each day. The whole thrust of the parable shows that it doesn’t matter at which time of the day (or at what time of your life) that you come into God’s Kingdom the payment is always the same (deliverance from death – those standing around were doing nothing… “AS GOOD AS DEAD!”). Everyone who the landowner hired got the same reward no more no less no more – “give us each day our daily bread” just as those who gathered the manner got the same amount to feed everyone EVERY DAY so the denarius does the same.
        YOU SAID: Hence, like you mentioned, in Exodus they gathered “a measure” of the manna per day. It still seems to me that you have a day’s wages being spent specifically on food, and then you have everything else that you also must buy (clothing, housing, taxes, etc).
        Debbie’s Answer; From what I have studied I believe that the Food is the FOOD OF THE SON it has nothing to do with physical food…. It is the “bread from Heaven”. All the Symbols point to Jesus the Bread of Life– The Oil the Holy Spirit and the Wine the Blood. (the protection of those who are provided for). This was an amazing discovery for me, most unexpected.
        I hope this all makes sense.
        Thanks once again for the opportunity to present my case – God Bless, Debbie

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